September 10, 2010

Learning to be a collaborator.

Over the past week, I've been going back and forth on a manuscript that I'm an author on. My contribution to the paper was that while I was a postdoc at SmallUniversity in SmallTown, I designed and optimized an experiment that was eventually adopted by a lab and used in this particular manuscript. The PI, SoftMoneyPI, wanted to put me on as an author because I had contributed significantly to the scientific development of the work.

SoftMoneyPI is a very creative, smart and probably does some of the most interesting work at SmallUniversity. She is, however, not at all recognized for her scientific prowess. Although mentored by GuruofSmallThings, a major force in the field, she is largely ignored and often belittled by TheGodfather. It would frustrate me to watch, in the weekly scientific lunch seminar or as many called it TheGodfatherShow, as TheGodfather would denigrate female faculty. The worse part was that nobody said anything. So when I hear others say blatant sexism doesn't exist, I laugh and think, you've obviously never met TheGodfather. Needless to say that while I was still at SmallUniversity, I stopped attending anything that TheGodfather organized.

The other authors on the paper are obviously SoftMoneyPI as first author, a PhD student, her lab technician and an undergraduate researcher. Two weeks ago, SoftMoneyPI sent around a draft of the manuscript to all the authors. And well as an author, I felt it was my obligation to do a thorough job reading and evaluating the manuscript. I would expect nothing less from those who are authors on any manuscript where I'm a first author.

I like SoftMoneyPI because she's one of those rare scientists who actually listens to any criticism. Like many of us, I think she takes it personally but she has this great ability to be aware when she's taking it personally. So when I gave my comments and edits on the manuscript, I was extremely thoughtful.

But I struggled over the past week with the manuscript because I found the introduction and results somehow lacking. She was very appreciative of my comments but decided that ultimately we had differences in writing styles. In an email she wrote she stated that she follows TheGodfather's way of writing.

I have a fundamental distaste for that man. For me his name makes me feel like I've put my tongue on something rank and bitter. And I just have no respect for his way of doing science.

But I realize that she is not him even though she may want to emulate his writing style. And that this is not my paper but a collaboration. It's a hard this letting go business, but in the end, I wrote her this in an email,

Dear SoftMoneyPI,

You're the first author and its an area you know much better than I, so I trust your final choices. This is for me a valuable learning experience. I have never had a chance to be a collaborator on a manuscript yet. So far I've only been first author on any manuscript and I really appreciate the opportunity.

I look forward to reading the final version of the manuscript.

Cheers, Girlpostdoc

8 comments:

Miss Outlier said...

I think that's a very measured response - best of luck!

Tim said...

so I'm new to your blog, but what's the point of your post here?

unknown said...

@Tim
Welcome! Sometimes, a blogpost will have no point, it will just be the bloggers thought. Here my point is just that sometimes being a collaborator means letting someone else be in charge of the writing style.

Anonymous said...

its frustrating to let someone else be in charge, especially when you disagree on style. or when authors are put on your paper you dont think deserve to be there... but being just a phdstudent/starting postdoc you unfortunately often have nothing to say about that.
thats what i dislike about science...
:)

unknown said...

@Anonymous

Yes I agree, but I also think that part of learning to be a scientist is learning to be a member of a team. And sometimes this means contributing to the work at varying levels.

Unfortunately, there is a great deal of inconsistency across individuals within a scientific community and journals as to what is considered sufficient to warrant authorship.

One of the most frustrating aspects of a collaboration that I have experienced, in the past, is contributing a large amount of time,scientific expertise and research, only to find myself without authorship credentials.

Anonymous said...

wow. without? and you did discuss that and all? what was their reason for not to? or you only found out after they had published?
i do agree that authorship does not mean contribution. but how could you ever control that? i am second author on a paper to which i did a huge amount of work. not only experimentally, but also intellectually. then at the same time someone on my first author paper did a very very minor thing that i could easily have done myself (better and faster), but just as to make a reason to put this person on a paper.
then many reassure me that the only authors that matter are the first and last, those will be cited and the others will be forgotton. what do you think about that?

Anonymous said...

so what i meant was, im curious how you and others think about all the authors on a paper. do they matter? or only the first and last? what about these science/cell papers with tons of names on it? is it worth anything?

unknown said...

"I'm curious how you and others think about all the authors on a paper. do they matter? or only the first and last? "

It depends on what you mean by do they matter and to whom. To me, if I'm the lead on the paper and the senior author and I decide who has contributed sufficiently to warrant authorship, then the other authors matter.

If I'm not the lead author, then what matters ultimately to me is that 1. I am recognized for the work I do and the contribution to any one project that I might offer and 2. The work is high quality work. The only way to protect yourself from getting booted (which I now do) is get it writing if you're being offered an authorship and what the lead/senior requires for authorship.

"what about these science/cell papers with tons of names on it? is it worth anything?" Any work that forwards science is worth something.

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